Who is Zim's greatest sports person ever?

[Shayne]

Thinking a new poll is in order. I need moninations for a our greatest sports person /team to date that put Zim on the map

My noms are:

Nick Price
Mark McNulty
Kilimanjaro
Peter Ndlovu
Flower Brothers
Kirsty Conventry
Bruce Grobelar (sp?)
Womens Hockey Team that won gold Olympics 1980
Black Brothers

There are many more so add them in...

[biffon]

Kirsty Coventry -Swimming
Nick Price -golf
Zim cricket team that whitewashed England
Black Brothers & Sister -tennis
Kevin Ullyett -tennis
Peter Ndlovu -soccer
Mark Mcnulty -golf
Bruce Grobelar -soccer
Kennedy Tsimba -rugby
Tonderai Chavhanga -rugby

Honourable mention
David Pocock - rugby rising star!

[TiGeR]

Think you fellas should have specified not to repeat otherwise we goin to be goin round in circles! Are we talkin about Zim BORN or Zim REPs? Think that there needs to be a distinction cos if Zim BORN, there are HEAPS of SA, UK & even US athletes with Zim links...

Rugby- Ian MacIntosh (Rhodesia, Sharks & Boks coach)
- Ian Robertson (Rhodesia, Natal & Bok player)
- Gary Teichmann (Sharks & Bok capt)
- Bob Skinstadt (WP, Stormers & Bok capt)
2004/5 Zim U19 Rugby team (qualified & played in U19 World cup 2005)

Cricket- Graeme Hick (Zim & England)
- Peter Pollock (Rhodesia & SA Cricket)

Iron Man- Forget her name now but there's a Zim born lady who is a LEGEND & represents the states now...

Bowls- Forget her name, but there's a blind lady (Connie something or other i THINK?) who KICKED A:smiley35:ss at world games in the 90s...

Athletics- Philemon Harineki (ex AW boy who used to run LOooooooooong distance & KICK A:smiley35:SS at the stadium (Harare Boys Schools Athletics- remember those days fellas...:smiley36: ) anyway he changed his name to Haneck & started running for Sweden/ Finland because they didnt tax him! (Good on him- decided that Bob & the greedy Zanu PF boys wouldnt share in his hard earned cash!)

...shew...havin a brain explosion!:smiley29:

[biffon]

Does Bob Skinstadt count? he was born in Skies or kwekwe but lived most his life in SA
the others are good inclusions especially Ian Mac - mate of my Old man's, used to give him hell when he was coaching St Johns (if i remember right)

[biffon]

i think a vote should be in order - how many fields does the voter tool allow shayne?

[Shayne]

Skinsdt counts. He is Zimbabwean after all. Didnt we used to have a really good 400 metre and marathon runner?

[biffon]

eep and we have to come up with 10 nominees
tough job
ok heres what we have so far:

- Nick Price (golf)
- Mark McNulty (golf)
- Proud Kilimanjaro (boxing)
- Tatenda Taibu (1st black cricket Capt)
- Peter Ndlovu (soccer)
- Andy Flower (cricket)
- Grant Flower (cricket)
- Bruce Grobelar (soccer)
- Womens Hockey Team - Olympic gold 1980
- Byron Black (tennis)
- Wayne Black (tennis)
- Cara Black (tennis)
- Kirsty Coventry -(Swimming)
- Zim cricket team that whitewashed England in 1997
- Eddo Brandes -(cricket: that hatric against england)
- Kevin Ullyett -(tennis)
- Kennedy Tsimba -(rugby Zim, Border & freestate)
- Tonderai Chavhanga -(rugby Bok sevens, Freestate & WP)
- Ian MacIntosh (Rhodesia, Sharks & Boks coach)
- Ian Robertson (Rhodesia, Natal & Bok player)
- Gary Teichmann (Sharks & Bok capt)
- Bob Skinstadt (WP, Stormers & Bok capt)
- Zim U19 Rugby team (qualified & played in U19 World cup 2005)
- Graeme Hick (Zim & England)
- Peter Pollock (Rhodesia & SA Cricket)
- Rhodesian rugby team 1949 (beat New Zealand 10-8)
- Tracey Cox -(diving)
- Debbie Jeans (judo)
- Warren Thorn (all african 250cc moto-x champ)
- langton schoolboy tinago -(boxing)
- Evan Stewart (Diving - Commonwealth gold)

[Shayne]

Kilimanjaro was a great Zimbabwe heavyweight boxer. Not a wrestler.

There was also that Zim diver that made the last 12 of the Olympics. Cant remember his name for the life of me.

[Poison]

Debbie Jeans - Three time All African Gold Medallist in Women's judo

[biffon]

updated.

[Shayne]

Langton Schoolboy Tinago -
Commonwealth (British Empire) Lightweight Title,
Zimbabwean Lightweight Title,
Commonwealth (British Empire) Light Welterweight Title,
Zimbabwean Welterweight Title
Commonwealth (British Empire) Super Featherweight Title ,
Zimbabwean Lightweight Title
Commonwealth (British Empire) Lightweight Title ,
Rhodesian Welterweight Title
Rhodesian Lightweight Title

[biffon]

warren thorn -moto-X (all african 250cc champ)

[Shayne]

eep and we have to come up with 10 nominees
tough job
ok heres what we have so far:

- Nick Price (golf)
- Mark McNulty (golf)
- Proud Kilimanjaro (boxing)
- Tatenda Taibu (1st black cricket Capt)
- Peter Ndlovu (soccer)
- Andy Flower (cricket)
- Grant Flower (cricket)
- Bruce Grobelar (soccer)
- Womens Hockey Team - Olympic gold 1980
- Byron Black (tennis)
- Wayne Black (tennis)
- Cara Black (tennis)
- Kirsty Coventry -(Swimming)
- Zim cricket team that whitewashed England in 1997
- Eddo Brandes -(cricket: that hatric against england)
- Kevin Ullyett -(tennis)
- Kennedy Tsimba -(rugby Zim, Border & freestate)
- Tonderai Chavhanga -(rugby Bok sevens, Freestate & WP)
- Ian MacIntosh (Rhodesia, Sharks & Boks coach)
- Ian Robertson (Rhodesia, Natal & Bok player)
- Gary Teichmann (Sharks & Bok capt)
- Bob Skinstadt (WP, Stormers & Bok capt)
- Zim U19 Rugby team (qualified & played in U19 World cup 2005)
- Graeme Hick (Zim & England)
- Peter Pollock (Rhodesia & SA Cricket)
- Rhodesian rugby team 1949 (beat New Zealand 10-8)
- Tracey Cox -(diving)
- Debbie Jeans (judo)
- Warren Thorn (all african 250cc moto-x champ)
- langton schoolboy tinago -(boxing)

Going to be hard to narrow that down to 10

[Aboriginal]

Kilimanjaro was a great Zimbabwe heavyweight boxer. Not a wrestler.

There was also that Zim diver that made the last 12 of the Olympics. Cant remember his name for the life of me.

Evan Stewart? Won Commnwealth gold in 90's? See site http://www.zoc.co.zw/achievements.htm

[Shayne]

Abbo, These were all my dad's boxers from that link supplied.
BRONZE - Duke Chinyadza in Boxing
SILVER - Nokuthula Tshabangu in Boxing
BRONZE in Boxing - Ezwell Ndlovu

[Shayne]

Right, lets start trying to get this down to ten nominations. Thoughts?

[biffon]

ok we need to look at credentials.. have a sliding scale
eg:
world champion/s =10pts
Olympic medal =9pts
commonwealth medal =8pts
top ten ranking =7pts
winner of major comp =7pts (including tests & tournaments)
International representation =7pts
zimbabwean representation = 5pts

any others to add??

[biffon]

if more than one credential is valid the top scoring one is used.

[Shayne]

Nice Biffon. I think we can get a decent top ten using your sliding scale.

[biffon]

i'll work it out & post later

[biffon]

ok i have wittled it down a bit:
10Nick Price (golf World No1)
10Andy Flower (cricket Zim No1 PWC ratings)
10Byron Black (tennis World No1 doubles)
10Kirsty Coventry -(Swimming olympic gold)
9Womens Hockey Team - (Olympic gold 1980)
9langton schoolboy tinago -(boxing commonwealth lightweight)
8Evan Stewart (Diving - Commonwealth gold)
8Mark McNulty (golf 2 time PGA comp winner)
7Wayne Black (tennis 4 grandslam doubles titles)
7Cara Black (tennis 4 grandslam doubles titles)
7Kevin Ullyett -(tennis 3 grandslam titles)
7Tonderai Chavhanga -(rugby Bok sevens, Freestate & WP)
7Ian Robertson (Rhodesia, Natal & Bok player)
7Peter Pollock (Rhodesia & SA Cricket)
7Debbie Jeans (judo 3 time all-afric champ)
7Warren Thorn (all african 250cc moto-x champ)

of the sevens we need to get two clear standouts..

[Shayne]

For me it would Debbie Jeans, Wayne Black and Kevin Ullyet. they are more Zimbabwean than the rest. Thoughts?

[biffon]

i would rate Cara above Kevin as she has 4 titles and he only has three
Cara was also wimbledon junior singles champion
I don't know Debbies achievments but all i can find on her is that she was all africa champ... is that enough to qualify?

[Shayne]

I suppose the question we have to ask ourselves is "who has put Zimbabwe on the map?" We could argue the BRuce Groblelar and Peter Ndolvu achieved this yet the Womens Hockey Team of 1980 didnt yet they are number 5 on the list.

[biffon]

hmmm yeah well they are a bit of a conundrum....
the object is to find the most influential and famous sportsperson/team so ok lets leave off the womens hockey team, Evan Stewart and langton tinago as hell i dont even know who he was..
add Peter, Bruce and kevin

[FerrariSucks]

In order Nick Price, Byron Black and Bruce G/Peter Ndlovu as they have all inspired youngsters to achieve more

[biffon]

ok heres the list....
10Nick Price (golf World No1)
10Andy Flower (cricket Zim No1 PWC ratings)
10Byron Black (tennis World No1 doubles)
10Kirsty Coventry -(Swimming olympic gold)
7Wayne Black (tennis 4 grandslam doubles titles)
7Cara Black (tennis 4 grandslam doubles titles)
7Kevin Ullyett -(tennis 3 grandslam titles)
7Peter Ndlovu -(soccer zim & Chelsea)
7Mark Mcnulty -(golf 2 time PGA winner)
7Bruce Grobelar -(soccer zim & Liverpool)

Edited by Shayne . Thread closed. View, vote and discuss in the poll thread here (http://www.thechiefbaboon.com/Forums//showthread.php?t=2987)