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Shayne
02-09-2007, 01:31 AM
I've been doing a bit of research on global warming and i truly believe that humans are to blame.

Therefore it angers me when i come across articles such as this.


There is No Global Warming


There is no global warming. Period.

You can't find a real scientist anywhere in the world who can look you in the eye and, without hesitation, without clarification, without saying, kinda, mighta, sorta, if, and or but...say "yes, global warming is with us."
There is no evidence whatsoever to support such claims. Anyone who tells you that scientific research shows warming trends - be they teachers, news casters, Congressmen, Senators, Vice Presidents or Presidents - is wrong. There is no global warming.

Scientific research through U.S. Government satellite and balloon measurements shows that the temperature is actually cooling - very slightly - .037 degrees Celsius.

A little research into modern-day temperature trends bears this out. For example, in 1936 the Midwest of the United States experienced 49 consecutive days of temperatures over 90 degrees. There were another 49 consecutive days in 1955. But in 1992 there was only one day over 90 degrees and in 1997 only 5 days.

Because of modern science and improved equipment, this "cooling" trend has been most accurately documented over the past 18 years. Ironically, that's the same period of time the hysteria has grown over dire warnings of "warming."

Changes in global temperatures are natural. There is no proof that temperature is affected by anything that man has done.
In fact, recent severe weather has been directly attributed to a natural phenomenon that occurs every so often called El Nino. It causes ocean temperatures to rise as tropical trade winds actually reverse for a time.
The resulting temperature changes cause severe storms, flooding and even draught on every continent on earth.

It's completely natural. El Nino has been wreaking its havoc across the globe since long before man appeared.

How about the reports that the polar ice cap is melting? Well, yes it is. In fact, it has been for about a million years or so. We are at the end of the ice age in which ice covered most of North American and Northern Europe.

The rest of the article is here (http://www.americanpolicy.org/un/thereisnoglobal.htm). An interesting read.

djsam
02-09-2007, 02:42 AM
I thinks its very naive to assume all our pollution has no effect.
John Howard in Australia seems to think he wont do anything unless everyone else does. So the worlds biggest polluting country outside the US continues to pump out the CO2, and still refuses to ratify the Kyoto Protocol.
Its a simple thing of action and reaction.

Shayne
02-09-2007, 03:06 AM
I might add that the link points to the American Policy site.

Poison
02-09-2007, 03:09 AM
Has anyone here seen "An Inconvenient truth.."

Its quite scary to see whats happening to the world..

Nyala
02-09-2007, 05:43 AM
I think that report has both merits and demerits attached to it. For example - it could be true that we've only recently acquired accurate figures on temperatures etc world wide. It may be true that the ice caps are still melting and have been doing so forever - we have much more accurate equipment than in the past so these may be trends never picked up before. BUT - to say nothing man does will affect the climate is very naive!!! In junior school we are taught the effects of chemicals on the environment and how land clearing affects the ecosystems as well as the environment and atmosphere. Dumping tons of toxic chemicals into the sea and releasing millions of tons of toxic subtances into the atmosphere cannot be a neutral thing - it causes damage! Mankind have seen the effects we have caused and are, mostly, doing our best to make right - although this process will take generations.

dallas
02-09-2007, 01:16 PM
I have to agree with Shayne on this, there definately is a change, you look at Englands weather for one, last year we had snow in april and then had the hottest summer ever on record, there are more hurricanes and earthquakes and all that now more than ever

Kirsty
02-09-2007, 07:01 PM
I completely agree with Shayne.

It really makes me want to box some people when they argue that there is no global warming and that humans are not to blame that it's natures natural cycle.

I'm not that dumb that I don't know that nature does in fact go through cycles. But these Cycles take hundreds and hundreds of years. There is no doubt in my mind that we (humans) have accelerated this cycle so dramatically.

What used to take hundreds of years is now occuring in a matter of decades, and with greater vigor.

You are a moron and should not reproduce and pass on your moron genes if you don't think humans are to blame for global warming.

Mr Plank
02-10-2007, 02:42 AM
I think you will find some merit there. Sure we should do something about the dangerous chemicals we pour here there and everywhere. However pollution is made up of gases of which the greater gas is carbon dioxide, Carbon dioxide is absorbed by plants and tree in there Photosynthesis process which makes them grow and there waste product is oxygen. If we stop cutting down trees now and replant forests that we have destroyed over the past 2000 years we have a better chance of survival

sally
02-10-2007, 08:57 PM
I agree!! The winters are definatly getting colder and the summers hotter!!

FerrariSucks
02-10-2007, 09:54 PM
I have to agree with Shayne on this, there definately is a change, you look at Englands weather for one, last year we had snow in april and then had the hottest summer ever on record, there are more hurricanes and earthquakes and all that now more than ever

Dont forget that we are currently experiencing El Nino

El Niño is an oscillation of the ocean-atmosphere system in the tropical Pacific having important consequences for weather around the globe.

What is La Niña?

Among these consequences are increased rainfall across the southern tier of the US and in Peru, which has caused destructive flooding, and drought in the West Pacific, sometimes associated with devastating brush fires in Australia. Observations of conditions in the tropical Pacific are considered essential for the prediction of short term (a few months to 1 year) climate variations. To provide necessary data, NOAA operates a network of buoys which measure temperature, currents and winds in the equatorial band. These buoys daily transmit data which are available to researchers and forecasters around the world in real time.

In normal, non-El Niño conditions (top panel of schematic diagram), the trade winds blow towards the west across the tropical Pacific. These winds pile up warm surface water in the west Pacific, so that the sea surface is about 1/2 meter higher at Indonesia than at Ecuador.

The sea surface temperature is about 8 degrees C higher in the west, with cool temperatures off South America, due to an upwelling of cold water from deeper levels. This cold water is nutrient-rich, supporting high levels of primary productivity, diverse marine ecosystems, and major fisheries. Rainfall is found in rising air over the warmest water, and the east Pacific is relatively dry. The observations at 110 W (left diagram of 110 W conditions) show that the cool water (below about 17 degrees C, the black band in these plots) is within 50m of the surface.

During El Niño (bottom panel of the schematic diagram), the trade winds relax in the central and western Pacific leading to a depression of the thermocline in the eastern Pacific, and an elevation of the thermocline in the west. The observations at 110W show, for example, that during 1982-1983, the 17-degree isotherm dropped to about 150m depth. This reduced the efficiency of upwelling to cool the suface and cut off the supply of nutrient rich thermocline water to the euphotic zone. The result was a rise in sea surface temperature and a drastic decline in primary productivity, the latter of which adversely affected higher trophic levels of the food chain, including commercial fisheries in this region. The weakening of easterly tradewinds during El Niño is evident in this figure as well. Rainfall follows the warm water eastward, with associated flooding in Peru and drought in Indonesia and Australia. The eastward displacement of the atmospheric heat source overlaying the warmest water results in large changes in the global atmospheric circulation, which in turn force changes in weather in regions far removed from the tropical Pacific.

Kirsty
04-23-2007, 06:55 PM
Here is positive proof that there is global warming:

dallas
04-25-2007, 02:14 PM
hahahahaha good one kirsty