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biffon
02-18-2007, 08:26 AM
http://www.super14.com/news/viewarticle.asp?id=1995

Violet Rathbone, the 80-year-old grandmother of former South African Under-21 captain and current Wallaby Clyde Rathbone is embroiled in political controversy in South Africa.
Mrs Rathbone has hit front-page news concerning a letter she wrote to Democratic Alliance leader Tony Leon, which has been made public in South African parliament.
Mrs Rathbone, who emigrated to South Africa from Australia as a child, returned to her country of birth last week owing to concerns of rising crime levels in South Africa.
As a result, she has come under stinging criticism from South African Defence Minister Mosiua Lekota.
On August 25, 2004, Violet's daughter-in-law Glynis - Clyde's mother - was lucky to survive after being thrown over the balcony of her home one night by an intruder.
She was hospitalised with five broken ribs, a fractured hand and lacerations to her foot.
She and her husband remained in South Africa for another two years before settling in Canberra, the city where their son, Brumbies winger Clyde lives.
Lekota, speaking to the Independent Newspaper Group, has come out in heavy criticism of emigrants who have left the country citing crime as their reason.
He has branded them "crime-whingers" and has given Violet Rathbone as a specific example.
Lekota has questioned her motives, wondering if her reason was really crime, or the fact that "white people were still in law" in Australia.
Lekota was quoted in The Star saying: "Her black counterparts who are 80, who did not have rights before now, have rights like herself. She leaves and goes to a country like that.
"Why shouldn't I or anybody else wonder: is she really leaving because of crime, or is she leaving because maybe she is trying to enjoy a status in which she is better than other sections of the population? Why should I not ask that question?
"What is it Mrs Rathbone will get in Australia that she cannot get in this country? What is it that we are doing to whites to justify her saying, 'No, I am better off in Australia', save that Australia has the situation in which whites are the law, and blacks there are what they are."
Mrs Rathbone's niece, Cecilia Russell defended her aunt in The Star, writing, "She loved this country."
Russell also quoted her aunt's letter which stated that she would "always love South Africa and will never run it down.
"I hope and pray... that the government will do all in its power to fight the rampant crime in South Africa at the moment."
Russell then pondered whether Lekota "could really be talking about my Aunty Vi".
"The truth is that circumstances - and crime - meant that she chose to join her family in Australia, the country of her birth."

Zulu
03-21-2007, 11:11 AM
I guess at 80 she didn't want to be robbed and raped. She preferred a country where there is rule of law and who really can blame her.

And if wishing to live in a country where there is the rule of law can be condemned by SA policticians as racist then I am relieved that I have never considered SA in its current state a vaible option despite any feelings of homesickness I may get for Africa from time tio time.

biffon
03-22-2007, 11:52 AM
I agree i would rather live in zim than SA to be honest!

Blazzo
03-22-2007, 02:30 PM
Australia or South Africa?? Hmmm let me think - no contest mate, why would you want to stay there if you don't have to? Sure its a beautiful country and maybe alot of sentiment etc for some people, but if you are up against it from the word "Go" for having the wrong skin colour( in terms of employment,promotion,business etc) and then there is this crime rate ( highest in the world-See this to see what South africa Ranks number one in the world for (http://www.nationmaster.com/country/sf/Top-Rankings)) which increases your chance of getting done so much more than Aus for instance, why stay there? I would rather live in a country where there is relative stability and equal opportunity for everyone, regardles of race,gender or background. Sure there is crime here in Aus, but nothing compared to SAfrica, I would feel safe having my kids walk down to the cornershop at ten o clock at night. I lived in SA for two years and wouldn't even walk to work which was about 300 metres from home, life is complicated enough without having to worry about these things if you don't have to. So Violet Rathbone, good choice I say.

Blazzo
03-22-2007, 02:49 PM
Having read what I wrote, well I don't hate South Africa, I miss it, and I miss Zim obviously, but am happy where I am now and will make my Life here. I was one of the fortunate ones who had that option to leave. I took it. Will always go back for holidays but not to live..

Raevoyn
03-25-2007, 05:58 PM
I've got to say that I have fuck all feelings for any person who will let a member of their family turn coat like Clyde has done and play for the opposition.

Whilst I feel for her in her struggle, my heart doesn't bleed for her ... perhaps if she had her ducks in order I'd be a little sympathetic, however, Clyde was (as was stated) SA U21 captain and then went to Aus to play his international career!

Rugby aside, I'm sorry she had to go through that, but that's the thing about Karma, it comes back to you in the weirdest ways! No offence to her though!

biffon
03-25-2007, 11:28 PM
I think the full picture of Clyde moving here has been swept under the carpet.

NOTE:1) Rathbone was not offered a place in the Starting 30 Sprinbok Squad, even after captaining the U21 Boks
2) His paternal side is Australian
3) Crime rate in Australia has been highlighted to be a major point indicated by him for his move, & justified when his Mother was attacked in her home.


id say no contest! :naughty: :naughty: :smiley32:

Patson
03-26-2007, 07:06 AM
U go where u can support your family plus as biff said he was not offered a place. Its just government trying to turn everything as usuall to whits and black.,

Moses
04-20-2007, 03:51 PM
I've got to say that I have fuck all feelings for any person who will let a member of their family turn coat like Clyde has done and play for the opposition.
So how big a fight did your Grandma put up about you moving to Ireland? And even if she had, would you have listened to her? seriously??
Whilst I feel for her in her struggle, my heart doesn't bleed for her ... perhaps if she had her ducks in order I'd be a little sympathetic, however, Clyde was (as was stated) SA U21 captain and then went to Aus to play his international career!

Rugby aside, I'm sorry she had to go through that, but that's the thing about Karma, it comes back to you in the weirdest ways! No offence to her though!
I honestly don't see the difference between an accountant moving OS for green pastures or a sportsman. Both professionals, and have the right to ply their trade wherever the climate is right. Do you have a go at a Saffa stockbroker working in London cause he should be in Cape Town helping out the african economy?

Clyde (like Dan Vickerman before him) has conducted himself with integrity - unlike Pietersen who moves OS then bags his home country.

Do you have the same feelings for Andy Flower? Grahaem Hick? Henry Olonga?