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biffon
04-05-2007, 06:52 AM
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,21507785-5002381,00.html

Super 14

Call to move Brumbies to Melbourne

By Peter Jenkins
April 05, 2007
PROMINENT rugby union officials are privately reigniting debate that the Brumbies should be uprooted from their Canberra base and transplanted to a new home in Melbourne.
The issue has been a ticking bomb since the Brumbies were founded in 1996 - at the start of the professional era - to provide a third Australian province in the Super 12 competition.
But the emergence of big-spending Western Force on the Australian rugby landscape, and the financial clout their corporate backers have brought, has senior figures outside the ACT wondering what the future holds for the side in the national capital.
The latest concerns have been triggered by an ongoing tug of war for the services of Brumbies and Australia forward Mark Chisholm.
Force wants him, and potential third-party endorsements have supposedly had Chisholm and his manager interested.
Similar third-party deals, but on a far grander scale, plucked Matt Giteau from the Brumbies to play in Force colours this season.
"They just don't have the financial muscle to compete at that level," a senior official from a rival franchise said of the Brumbies.
"The Australian Rugby Union should have looked at all this before they brought the Force into Super 14.
"They should have called for interested parties to apply for one of the four franchise licences, and then you would have had five submissions (from New South Wales, Queensland, ACT, Perth and Melbourne).
"In terms of a corporate market, Melbourne would have surely been more attractive than Canberra.
"It could still be done, and the team could still be the Brumbies. They would simply have a new home.
"Take a look at the AFL. They have never moved to have a team full-time in Canberra. Why? Because the market isn't big enough."
An ARU insider suggested: "You have to wonder whether people at the Brumbies have had the same thoughts. But if they were thinking ahead like that, they would be loath to say anything because they already have committed sponsors.
"What will be interesting to see is how successful the Melbourne Rebels are (in the coming third-tier national competition0, in terms of crowd support and sponsorship backing."
The pro-Melbourne push has also raised questions about the Brumbies once home-grown foundation players George Gregan and Stephen Larkham and the long-serving Stirling Mortlock finish playing.
Will the Brumbies be able to recruit successfully and remain competitive? If not, how will it impact on their corporate backing?
Brumbies chief executive Andrew Fagan has heard the arguments before.
He scoffed last night, suggesting it made no sense to remove the two-time Super 12 winners from Canberra.
"It's never been tabled for discussion by me or any of my predecessors at the ACT Rugby Union," he said.
"We made a healthy profit last year and hope to do the same this season.
"Our corporate sponsorships stack up with the three other provinces, they're certainly in the same ball park.
"The naming rights sponsorship with Computer Associates is a seven-figure annual deal. We have 40-odd sponsors and a solid corporate network."
As for Chisholm, Fagan is confident he will stay, especially if the contracting protocols put in place by the ARU are adhered to in the chase for his signature.
Third-party endorsements, Fagan said, could not be used as an inducement by a franchise to lure a player.

Those "extras" can only be sourced by a player's manager.
But Fagan acknowledges the blurred line in trying to police the policy.

"The Force have admitted they provided the 'fish finder' that delivered Matt Giteau's third-party deals," he said.
"The protocols have been tightened since then. Such a comment in 2007 would be a clear breach of those protocols."

Fagan also claimed that third-party endorsements should be of increasing concern to the ARU.

"Money doesn't grow on trees and if we want four competitive and healthy teams we've got to be careful we don't start eating our own," he said.

He also argued that the ARU's long-term vision made it foolhardy to suggest the Brumbies move to Melbourne.

After 2010, when the existing broadcasting agreement with News Limited expires and changes to the Super 14 and Tri-Nations competitions will be explored, the national body may look to establish a fifth provincial franchise.

The obvious choice, at this stage, is Melbourne.

If the Brumbies were moved there beforehand, Canberra could surely not be revisited. So where then would a fifth team head?

Edmonsta
04-05-2007, 07:27 AM
That would be awesome!!! I would definitely support them. (after the Sharks of course...)

A couple of months ago, the Melbourne Rugby Union ran a competition to re-name their rugby team, i.e. to come up with a name so that the team can be known as "The Melbourne ----------".

I came up with "The Melbourne Zulus", which I thought was a very good name... and they snubbed me, the bastards. They didn't even reply to my suggestion emails, or to the numerous ideas that I had for war cries and team mascots/emlbems. Last week I found out that some knob had won the competition by suggesting "The Melbourne Rebels"

What kind of a boring, useless name is "The Melbourne Rebels"?!!?! They sound like a second string under 8 barefoot bloody farmyard team. I don't even want to know what kind of a fool actually sat around the boardroom table and said "that's it, great idea, we'll call them the Melbourne Rebels!...."

Bloody Melbourne Rebels. Ptooo!:smiley11:

Seriously. I can't support a team that is called "The Melbourne Rebels"....

Anyway, so they snubbed my idea, let 'em carry on with their shitty team name without my support. They'll lose anyway. And when they can't win a game, go bankrupt and get kicked out of the league, the Brumbies will come to Melbourne and I'll be ready.:smiley36:

Bolty
04-05-2007, 08:40 AM
A Cool name if they moved to Melbourne would be ' Bloody Victorians '

He He only joking