All You Rugby Fanatics Out There

[Shifty]

Been a lot of talk in the papers over the last few days about drop goals.

One suggestion was that the drop goal should be reduced to ONE point. Another is that they should banned from the game altogether.

No one likes their team to lose a match particularly when it comes down to a drop goal being the decider, but is phasing them out of the game really the answer?

Thoughts? :whistling:

[Patson]

SA are big fans of that but i still think a win is a win ... some times it pisses me off watching them go for drop goal after drop goal but why change the game thats been goin this long that way... (anyway what are the other sides goin to do if they cant get passed my boys defence) common allblacks.......:whistling:

[Edmonsta]

The guy that gave me shit in the bar after the game on Saturday night definintely didn't like losing a game by a drop goal. He definietely thought that they should "....ban that fucken useless drop goal bullshit...":smiley36:

I dunno, why change the game (again). I tend to find that the only teams that complain about losing by drop goals are the ones that never win by drop goals. I'd probably be saying "ban the drop goal" if SA always lost by drop goals.

*shrug*

[yarrumsg]

Sorry to say i'm a big fan of drop goals and from what i can see SA have been holding them back for the main game this lastweekends game was a one off where they really needed them. Both sides are able to convert them and they are still risky. A charged down ball could easily lead in a try as there won't be much defence. France is going to have squally winds so it's going to make it difficult. At the end of the day if you loose the drop kick then you may as well loose the penalty kick. The pass from Griegen that hit Spiece was intentional that resulted in 3. personally i think if anything should change a try and conversion should be worth 8, drop kicks and penalty's should be worth 2, get the game on for tries...

[barto11]

keep the drop goals...i didnt hear anyone saying anything when when steven larkham dropped his one and only against the boks in the semi of RWC99, and then went onto win webb ellis

[biffon]

drop goals are a tactical part of the game and if used correctly can be proven game breakers... last weekend being a prime example... the reason why some people are opposed to them is that they are VERY difficult to defend against, nigh impossible actually..
the second drop goal is case in point.... the aussies all knew it was coming but they could do nothing about it. All other aspects of the game have been controlled so that it has become a direct contest for the ball, (even the scrum now is harder to win if its your put in)... except the drop goal.

I agree with you's all... keep it, its an important part of the game however i dont think it should be given the 3 point weighting. 2 points i think is more appropriate, give it the same worth as a conversion, as.. lets face it, the drop goal is only ever used to get "easy" points

[Patson]

finali some sense from an auzi supporter :whistling:

[biffon]

i always try to be impartial - sometimes my comments may be jaded but i prefer watching good rugby than rugby thats been pounded into the ground with stupid rules and political correctness!!

[Patson]

i always try to be impartial - sometimes my comments may be jaded but i prefer watching good rugby than rugby thats been pounded into the ground with stupid rules and political correctness!!

agreed.. :smiley20:

[Angelshark]

They are always pressure kicks so I think they should be awarded the same points as a try. If you can get one or two over in a game then good luck. They will definately change the game in the future

[biffon]

nah i disagree, theyre not pressure kicks at all its all about how deep your willing to stand by sacrificing distance to the poles, the bigger the boot to easier it becomes. if your team is pushing up into the 10 metre zone in front of the line then its an easy 25-30 metre kick it becomes harder if you are only at the 22 because then you have to drop back further to avoid the rush defence maybe a 50metre kick is still doable by some of the top players like Stein, Monty, Carter etc..

[Nyala]

At this level of play the drop goal shouldn't be a high risk move - these guys are the best in the world. I believe that it should stay as an important and valuable part of the game, 2 points seems a fair call. If a team can up their points with drop goals then why not?

[Shifty]

They are a big part of rugby history. As an alternative, what do you think about setting a limit to the number of drop kicks you can have in a game? For example, say 2 or 3.

[Nyala]

They are a big part of rugby history. As an alternative, what do you think about setting a limit to the number of drop kicks you can have in a game? For example, say 2 or 3.

Would that be attempts or successful goals? Either way, I don't think it would work...a bit like setting a limit on tries scored. If they're going to stay as part of the game then they should be used to their full advantage. I'm not a huge fan of drop goals and would prefer to see a game won by hard play and clever tactics but if an opportunity arises to use them then the players should be able to do so.

[hoadc]

It's all settled in one sentance

" Come on Johnny Wilko "

would that have been a boring game without drop goals?

[Shifty]

It's all settled in one sentance

" Come on Johnny Wilko "

would that have been a boring game without drop goals?

Not sure I get your point there hoadc.

If anything, that phrase "Come on Johnny Wilco" is a prime illustration of why English rugby is in the shocking state that it is today. But that is another story.

[biffon]

i think its "Bash Steyn" week in SA....
after his supersub heroics the week before. you can see that expectation and the attempt to live up to the hype got to him... poor lightie.

[Patson]

agreed i felt bad watchin the youngster he just couldnt do anything right... but thats sa supporters for u bash them when play bad but praise them and add your 5 cents when they play good .... even when allblacks started makin the come back the sa stadium just went quiet....