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Springbok
01-09-2008, 07:55 PM
http://www.supersport.co.za/rugby/common/articles/table_cnr_tr.gifDe Villiers follows Jake’s footsteps
by Gavin Rich | 09 January 2008 (14:08)
http://images.supersport.co.za/DeVilliersPieter060602GLbg.jpgPeter de Villiers © Gallo Images
The South African Rugby Union finally put an end to the speculation on Wednesday as Peter de Villiers was appointed as the man who will succeed Jake White as the Springbok coach.
De Villiers edged out the other front-runner, the former Bulls Super 14 winning coach Heyneke Meyer, after what was described as an exhaustive and thorough series of interviews conducted in Cape Town over the past few days.
The 50-year-old De Villiers will be South Africa’s first black national coach as the country seeks to step into a new era and speed up the transformation process which continues to be the one blot on the face of an otherwise successful sporting code.
Although De Villiers does not boast the senior level credentials of Meyer, who apart from the Super 14 title also won several Currie Cup titles with the Bulls, his supporters would be justified in arguing that he has tread a similar path to White.
Like the World Cup winning coach, De Villiers comes into the position having coached the SA under-21 team to the world title. Like White, he was also the losing finalist on one occasion. De Villiers also coached the Emerging Springboks to victory in the inaugural IRB tournament last year.
De Villiers enjoyed reasonable success as coach of the financially limited Falcons union in the early part of this decade, with the Falcons at one stage challenging for a place in the Currie Cup semi-finals during the 2001 season. It is understood he only parted ways with the Falcons due to a disagreement with some of the more conservative board members.
The other candidates who went through the final interview process were White’s assistant Allister Coetzee and former Springbok wing Chester Williams. They were always going to be bit players in the process, with Meyer heavily favoured and De Villiers also strongly in the running.
It is understood that De Villiers had the support of some big players behind the scenes, and while history has been made with the appointment of a black coach, don’t bet on too much changing in terms of Bok selection. It is believed De Villiers has already given John Smit an undertaking that he will continue with him as Springbok captain and he wants to retain the bulk of the squad that won the World Cup.
De Villiers’ appointment was confirmed after a meeting of the Saru Presidents’ Council earlier on Wednesday at Newlands. President Oregan Hoskins said he was happy with the choice made by the selection committee.
“Peter comes with a good record and strong recommendation and I am delighted that he has accepted this huge challenge,” said Hoskins.
“South African rugby is on top of the world at the moment and SARU is confident that the new coach will build on this great momentum and move us into a new era.
“Peter has created history today by becoming the first black person to coach the Springboks. He is a strong leader and a coach with a proven track record. We trust that the rugby fraternity will support him and the team as we embark on an exciting new phase of rugby in South Africa.
“I am sure that Peter will make a major contribution to our rugby,” added Hoskins.
However, De Villiers's promise as a coach who could increase the speed of transformation of a largely white team weighed just as strongly in his favour with SARU, said Hoskins.
"I want to be honest with South Africa and say that the appointment was not entirely made for rugby reasons," said Hoskins.
"We as an organisation have made the appointment and taken into account the issue of transformation very very seriously when we made it. I don't think that tarnishes Peter - I'm just being honest with our country."
De Villiers said: "You dream of being a Springbok player and if you can't be a player you dream of being a Springbok coach and that has become a reality for me now. "I am very privileged to be in this position of taking over a great squad of players but this is where the hard work begins. To make wholesale changes would be stupid." There are well sourced rumours circulating that White has agreed to act as De Villiers’ adviser over the next few years. De Villiers’ first assignment as Bok coach will be in the one-off test against Italy in June, a team ironically coached one of his predecessors in the hot-seat, Nick Mallett.

Shifty
01-09-2008, 08:55 PM
I strongly suspected that the appointment would go to one of the black/coloured applicants. Quite frankly, the writing has on the wall for some time now.

On paper, probably not the best man for the job but he does have a reasonably good rugby background. Anyway, giving it to Chester Williams at this moment in time would have been a huge mistake, but that's not to say that Chester Williams won't be a suitable candidate in the future, circumstances permitting.

Hopefully political interference will be kept to a minimum and De Villiers will be left to get on with his job (however I suspect it won't be that simple). He has big shoes to fill but I sincerely hope that he does well in his new role(except when it comes to playing the AB's).

This is definitely a pivotal moment for South African rugby. Whether it's for the better, only time will tell.

Spanner
01-09-2008, 09:40 PM
" This is definitely a pivotal moment for South African rugby. Whether it's for the better, only time will tell."

That about covers it all.

Let us wait and see how much more politics affects the teams performance and how long the country will stand it if they don't keep winning.

joemac
01-10-2008, 04:06 AM
The end of the day, this is what counts:

http://www.specorp.com/Images/ProductionScoreboard%28ehmf12%29.jpg

georgie
01-10-2008, 04:25 AM
Only time will tell. Hopefully it will remove the stigma that SA rugby is still racial and the politicians will lose interest and move on.

biffon
01-10-2008, 08:09 AM
he is a good coach, well better than Chester IMHO but wether or not he will be good enough is another story... i think we'll see another "Rudolph Straeulie" ie. 1 year appointment as there is way way too much politicking going on currently in SA rugby for any coach to have the faith of the politicians and the general public.

barto11
01-10-2008, 08:11 AM
oh well...when someone says they can name 46 players of colour who were better than any white player in the bok squad, but then cant actually name one(no seriously, SA Sports Illustrated asked him) there is going to be a problem...as a bok fan I'm worried

Onslow
01-10-2008, 10:37 AM
Ha ha, that gave me a pretty good laugh. I don't know anything about him, but i gather Jake White was recommending him, whether that is true or not i don't know, but if he was can't be all bad. I still think Heyneke Meyer should have been given it based on results, but hey, look who is not coaching the All Blacks.

Raevoyn
01-10-2008, 06:48 PM
Well I will always be hopefull of Springboks victory!

Edmonsta
01-11-2008, 01:31 AM
Well, I guess he is the obvious choice, considering the current situation - even if it means he's the second best in terms of coaching abilities.

I'm glad that Alistair Coetzee or Chester didn't make it - never rated Alistair as the backline coach, and Chester should have kept his day job.

The thing I like about De Villiers is that he is a rugby man and a hard worker. He's tasted success with the baby boks, and hopefully he can do the same with the big ones. As long as he doen't turn the Bok camp into Stormerville and rename them the "Mountain Goats".

He's just accepted the toughest job in SA!

Good luck to him - I'll support him.

Now please somebody sack the entire SA Rugby panel, and export Oregan Hoskins to Somalia.

Springbok
01-11-2008, 05:48 PM
150% correct ED:smiley20:

Raevoyn
01-12-2008, 02:55 PM
Springboks job as rugby bosses admit his colour settled decision

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00264/PeterDeVilliers360_264443a.jpg



Fred Bridgland in Johannesburg

The racial faultlines running through South African rugby were forced open again yesterday when a black man was chosen to coach the national team for the first time.
Peter De Villiers was unexpectedly put in charge of the Springboks, the world champions, and the rugby executive responsible for the appointment admitted that the colour of his skin was a deciding factor.
The decision to appoint De Villiers in preference to the highly rated, and white, Heyneke Meyer reignited the explosive debate over the inclusion of more blacks in the country’s white-dominated national sport.
De Villiers, 50, said that he did not want people to dwell on his colour. “The fact that I am the first black coach must end now,” he said.
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White takes time to consider next move (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/rugby/article2903710.ece)
Springboks colour future without White (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/rugby/article2703486.ece)



“Players out there must understand they will all stand an equal chance . . . If they are good enough, talented enough and work hard enough they will be part of the squad.”
His plea to fans to look beyond the colour of his skin was undermined by Oregan Hoskins, president of the South African Rugby Union (Saru), who said that race had been a determining factor.
“I want to be honest with South Africa and say that the appointment was not entirely made for rugby reasons,” Mr Hoskins said.
“We as an organisation have made the appointment and taken into account the issue of transformation very seriously when we made it.”
The appointment of De Villiers split the Saru board down the middle and was eventually endorsed by ten votes to nine. Many members supported Meyer, an Afrikaner, who last season coached the Pretoria Blue Bulls to victory in the southern hemisphere Super 14 tournament, featuring teams from South Africa, Australia and New Zealand. De Villiers has coached South Africa’s Under-21 and Under-19 teams.
In the end the issue of transformation — bringing non-white players into a game that was restricted to whites in the apartheid era — tilted the decision in favour of De Villiers.
Saru has been under heavy pressure from the African National Congress Government over its failure to pick more players of colour. Whites accounted for 13 of the 15 players to start in October’s World Cup final against England in Paris.
The quest to give greater opportunities to black players is expected to lead to a further exodus of top white players to higher-paid professional careers in France and Britain.
Victor Matfield, man of the match when the South Africans won last year’s rugby World Cup, has already joined Toulon in France and has said that he would be prepared to continue playing for the national team only under Meyer.
De Villiers succeeds Jake White, who resigned only weeks after leading the Springboks to World Cup success after a succession of bitter arguments with Saru, principally over the inclusion of black players.
Already there is speculation that De Villiers will name Luke Watson as captain of the Springboks. Watson was at the centre of controversy last year when White was told to include the 23-year-old white player on the ground that he was an “honorary black”. Watson’s father, Dan “Cheeky” Watson, turned down the chance of a Springbok cap in the 1970s — when sport was racially segregated — to play instead for a black township team called Kwaru, outside Port Elizabeth. White insisted that Watson was not good enough for the national team but eventually agreed to select him for a friendly match against Samoa.
Last night radio stations and websites were swamped with comments about the De Villiers appointment. Among the comments were “Saru has shot rugby in the head” and “We will never be a force in world rugby again”.
De Villiers said that he was “ecstatic” with his appointment. “The word transformation is a bit of a swear word with me,” he said. “I’m more concerned about a change of attitude than a change of colour.”

Springbok
01-12-2008, 03:04 PM
You are 1000% correct REAVOYN:smiley20:

georgie
01-12-2008, 05:08 PM
Time will tell - 2011 for instance.

Springbok
01-12-2008, 06:37 PM
We have to think of THE SPRINGBOKS right now not in four years

georgie
01-13-2008, 03:53 AM
The same mistake lesser sides make my bokdrolletjie

Springbok
01-13-2008, 07:56 AM
:smiley6: :smiley13: :~?;'?

georgie
01-14-2008, 04:03 AM
lol. The proof will be in the pudding in four years time with the next world cup.

leggless
01-14-2008, 06:12 AM
What a joke why change the coach who helped you win the world cup. Bunch of idiots. Too much politics in SA rugby.

Springbok
01-14-2008, 07:37 AM
I know leggless tell them that , they won't stop until there is 80% black administrators and players :smiley19: :smiley19: :smiley19: :smiley19: :smiley19: :smiley19:

georgie
01-15-2008, 04:14 AM
Try and keep up. White had no intentions of staying after the world cup. He made no secret of that.

I'm surprised bokkie.

Springbok
01-15-2008, 06:54 AM
Jake would have stayed if he was left alone to do his job and doesn't happen in SA:smiley20:

Raevoyn
01-15-2008, 12:32 PM
Try and keep up. White had no intentions of staying after the world cup. He made no secret of that.

I'm surprised bokkie.

It wasn't the he didn't want to stay, he was told before the tournament began that his contract was not going to be renewed, he went against the ous trying to dictate who was going to be allowed to play, and pulled a few guys back from retirement to SA provincial rugby so that they were eligable (sp?) to play for the MIGHTY BOKS!

Springbok
01-15-2008, 02:02 PM
I agree with you Reavoyn and Georgie 1500% :smiley20:

georgie
01-16-2008, 04:49 AM
Kak. Jake had no intention of cotinuing with the Boks.

He went through a very bad patch where he was nearly fired, which most of the country at the time wanted.
It was the time he was writing his book, which if you read will indicate that there was no way he was going to continue.

Lets not get carried away by his acheivement which he didnt do alone. Not be a long way

Springbok
01-16-2008, 08:29 AM
ok georgie

Raevoyn
01-16-2008, 06:00 PM
sjoe some bad feelings here, and ok he didn't win Bob on his own, although I do know that he knew exactly who he wanted for this past World Cup when he took over nearly 4 years ago, and he managed to get almost that.
Ok, so he didn't like the fact that the guys were pushing politics into the sport, so he gave them a choice, their way or the Cup? It was then that they got up-in-arms ....

Edmonsta
01-16-2008, 11:36 PM
I agree with you Reavoyn and Georgie 1500% :smiley20:

You're quite an agreeable chap SB. :smiley5:

:smiley36:

Springbok
01-17-2008, 06:36 AM
Thats why i'm a happy chap all the time Edmonstra

Raevoyn
01-17-2008, 02:09 PM
Nothing wrong with cheer!
Cheer for the Springbok!
Cheer for the Springboks!
Yippee

Springbok
01-17-2008, 02:10 PM
Thanks

biffon
01-18-2008, 05:24 AM
damn fence sitting squirrel! :D

georgie
01-19-2008, 05:54 AM
lol.